Saturday, July 14, 2012

7 daily questions vegans could ask themselves

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Also a good question, but not quite what I had in mind. Below are seven sets of questions -- one for each day of the week.

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  1. What one step can I take today to increase public awareness of the plight of farmed animals? What is the best way for me to help spread the word? How can I help someone else connect the dots?

 

  1. How can I be the best ambassador possible for veganism? How can I show that being vegan is the healthiest, most responsible and most compassionate way of being? How can I be more welcoming to new vegans and vegans-to-be?

 

  1. What specific skills and strengths can I bring to the table to forward the cause of animal liberation? Because doing what you're good at, and what you enjoy, will make you more effective.

 

  1. What can I do to show that animal rights are human rights as well? How can I show the intersections between human and animal oppressions? How can I demonstrate the various ways they're linked?

 

  1. How can I help bridge the gap between vegans and non-vegans? (Or between different factions of vegans?) How can I show where there's common ground?

 

  1. How can I protect myself from fatigue and burnout so I'm stronger for the long haul? What would stop me from being vegan? What can I learn from detractors of our cause?

 

  1. How can I be proactive instead of reactive? How can I highlight gains rather than losses? How can I move from focusing on problems to developing solutions?

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Obviously, questions are a lot easier to ask than answer (and more fun in my opinion), so I'll leave the hard work of actually answering them up to you. ;)

Comments

Krissa said...

All very good questions. The only one I can answer right off the top of my head is part of #6. The only thing that would stop me being vegan is if it were to save the life or prevent some kind of torture to a loved one or if I were 'required' to physically or psychologically torture another living creature (excluding child/'animal' molesters, rapists, murderers - those kinds of people) or be vegan. Neither of those choices will present itself so I'm safe. I don't know exactly what prevents others, besides unawareness. But then, what about those who know, but just go on and participate in the cruelty anyway? Which is where all the other questions come in and why they're so crucial. When I think back on my 'animal lover' days...before I was vegan...it just kind of blows my mind because I knew...I hadn't seen photos or anything, but I knew. And yet there I was doing it, too. What stopped me back then? I just don't know. As for what can we learn from detractors of basic decency. I have no idea about that either. That's a very generous outlook and question.

Debbie said...

Question #2 worries me. Am I a good ambassador? What if I’m the only vegan someone has ever talked to? Am I setting a positive example of a very easy way to live? While I am sick far, far less than I was before going vegan I still feel guilty if I catch a cold or something because I don’t want anyone to think it is because I’m vegan. Am I gracious when I go out to eat with others or do I come off as demanding when I ask questions about something on the menu? I just don’t know. I try to be a good ambassador but I’m not perfect.

veganelder said...

Question number 4 addresses an issue that intrigues me. There seems to be a lot of fog surrounding this.

Tom said...

As always, really helpful food for thought. Thank you. We sometimes become so happily ensconced in our vegan bubble that we forget how much work there is out there to be done.

Bea Elliott said...

Great list! I think I'm working my way backwards on it. #10 used to be the most challenging new habit to develop. Reacting (negatively or defensively) is very easy to do. And it certainly doesn't accomplish much.

The way I "cured" myself when I dealt with derogatory remarks about us AR/vegan "wackos" was to not take it personally. It's either a defense mechanism in them or just a lack of knowledge. I sure don't want to prove them right by flying off the handle! Better to stay collected and focused on the issues and not be sensitive to the misconceptions. Like I said... Most of the time, it's not personal - So I try not to make it so.

#9 - #1 solutions are in the works! ;)

Thanks everyone for your input! These questions are, of course, ones that I struggle with all the time. And my apologies for being so late in replying -- where has this month gone?!

@Krissa: For me, the only thing that would stop me from being vegan I think, is if I were to be convinced that veganism was hurting animals more than actually helping them -- that another approach would be of greater benefit. As for detractors? I think it's vital to be aware of how they view us, of the arguments they put forth and the questions they have, because ultimately they're the ones we're trying to reach and convince. Also there's a bit of a "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" strategy involved there, snort.

@Debbie: This question worries me too. Especially when I get riled up reading some online article and end up leaving caustic remarks, which no doubt do more harm than good. Gotta watch that temper of mine! And I hate getting colds now because invariably someone will link it to my being vegan. Grrr!

@veganelder: One of my favourite examples to cite for question #4 is domestic violence because there's such a clear link between the two. Where there's domestic assault, there's very likely animal cruelty as well. Studies show that many women don't leave abusive situations because they fear for the safety of their pets. That their pets have been hurt or have been threatened with violence as a means of control. That children exposed to domestic violence are more likely to be cruel to animals, and so forth. This is a subject worthy of its own post sometime, but also a good way to start the conversation about how helping animals helps humans too.

@Tom: Thanks. Yep, the vegan bubble is alive and well, and perhaps a bit too comfortable. Although veganism is making great strides in becoming more mainstream, reading online comments helps me remember how we're still regarded as a wacky minority by most.

@Bea: Being reactive is something I still have to work on. A lot! And sadly, an issue that probably interferes with every other question on the list. Hmmm, I definitely need to start answering these questions for myself. :)

Bettina said...

Hi there!

I'm so delighted to find these questions from you. I'm not vegan but have decided to act on my values to commit to a vegan lunch for a month. Usually when I hang out with vegans I feel guilty for being 'only' vegetarian, so I'm happy to see that you speak in the language of 'bridging the gap' rather than everyone's got to be 'all vegan, all the time'. It's a journey for me, and I want to get there someday.

have gone vegan said in reply to Bettina...

Hey Bettina! Thanks for dropping by, and welcome to the vegan journey. And it IS a journey, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise, snort. There's lots of resources online that can help (a number of places offer free vegan starter kits, for example), and tons of recipe and how-to-be-vegan books (I've got a bunch listed in the sidebar), so committing to vegan lunches for a month is definitely doable. And kudos to you for starting! Bon appetit!! :)

p.s. if you ever have any questions, just fire away...

Friday, June 1, 2012

50 hodgepodge thoughts on living well

 This was written the other day when I thought about turning 50 in October. I decided to put it all down as inspiration hit because I often regret not writing things down as I think of them. I've admitted to not always being punctual, and it's true I'm sometimes late, but I'm also sometimes early, so why wait with posting until I'm actually fifty? ;)

Um, it's not really related to veganism per se, but I thought you might enjoy anyway.

 

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  1. don't let anyone else tell you who you are unless they've legitimately earned your trust
  2. accept their input, but reserve the right to dismiss if it doesn't ring true
  3. learn to like yourself (you know what you need to improve on, but don't beat yourself up)
  4. don't let anyone else beat you up either, whether physically, emotionally, verbally, sexually, financially, or spiritually
  5. find a purpose, YOUR purpose, and keep looking for it if you have to until you find one that fits. You'll know when it does.
  6. figure out what you're good at, figure out what you're passionate about, and let the two become acquainted
  7. accept your past but know it doesn't define you
  8. become your own best friend and ally
  9. stay self-focused, but don't become self-centered 
  10. you can't change anyone except yourself (but by providing information or insight you may be able to help others help change themselves)
  11. be kind, be compassionate, and know we're all connected
  12. be a mentor (or at least a supporter)
  13. try to leave this world a better place
  14. define success for yourself
  15. be true to yourself, before being true to the world
  16. know that everything WILL pass
  17. be creative (whether literally in creating offspring, or preferably in how you live, how you connect to the world, and in leaving your mark on this world)
  18. know that being vegan is a spiritual task even if you identify as atheist
  19. become comfortable in not knowing all the answers
  20. comfort yourself by becoming better in asking the right questions
  21. decide for yourself what is true
  22. question authority because it has never been more relevant
  23. reading is as essential to life as breathing; do it every day
  24. forgive yourself
  25. forgive others (especially if they know not what they do), but only when ready
  26. know that you have much to contribute
  27. become a good steward
  28. try your best, but know that anything worth doing is worth doing badly
  29. always ask, What is the best use of my time right now?
  30. become a recovering pessimist
  31. better yet, become an idealistic realist
  32. think of happiness as a byproduct rather than an aim
  33. recognize that money is only a tool, a form of energy if you wish
  34. many rules are meant to be broken, but know rules well before you break them
  35. be mindful of what and whom you eat
  36. vote with your fork every day
  37. travel light (figuratively, metaphorically and literally)
  38. be grateful that your companion animal has chosen you
  39. live up to their expectations and exceed them when you can
  40. see how some of the best words are i words -- ideas, ideals, imagine, inform, inspire, illuminate, innovate, intuitive, introspection, insightful, intention, integrity...
  41. be aware of all the ways in which you're extremely lucky
  42. express gratitude daily
  43. remember that all families are complex and multi-layered
  44. honour your children as well as your parents
  45. realize there are three versions to every story: yours, mine, and the truth
  46. it's easier to be reactive than proactive, but easy is not usually best
  47. focus on the things you want more of, rather than less of
  48. fear not living well -- however you define well -- rather than death itself
  49. always be kind (notice how 'kin' is part of kind, and because all beings ARE kin, we need to be kind to all)
  50. know that love IS the answer

 

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Comments

Jill said...

"figure out what you're good at, figure out what you're passionate about, and let the two become acquainted" - what a great line! Happy early birthday!

Krissa said...

Thanks for sharing this! Lots of good insight and lots to think about.

Saturday, March 10, 2012

top ten reasons to go vegan

 In a comment on my previous top ten carnist phrases/excuses that drive me crazy post, I mentioned that I might compile a vegan list as well, so here goes. The Top Ten Reasons to go vegan are:

  1. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  2. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  3. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  4. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  5. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  6. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  7. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  8. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  9. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us
  10. other animals shouldn't have to suffer and die for us

 

  1. it's better for personal health
  2. it's better for the environment
  3. it has the potential to increase global peace
  4. it has the potential to decrease global hunger
  5. it'll expand culinary experience (your palate will thank you!)

There you go, my hand-picked top ten, snort. I included reasons 11-15, but really, they could easily be thought of as benefits primarily for human animals as opposed to reasons per se. Because what struck me as I was Googling top ten lists was how many did not have animals at the TOP of their list. Human concerns such as living longer, better, healthier and even sexier, for Pete's sake, seemed to crowd out concern for other sentient beings. Well, as nice as those things may be, they're not the primary reason I became vegan. For me, it's all about the top ten. Okay, I can see why these lists would be put together the way they are to entice others to join the fold, but we know better, eh? ;)

Comments

Krissa said...

"Because I said so". Ha. That's the reason my parents gave us as kids for a lot of things. ... I don't know statistically how many folks become vegan because of a reason they were given by another human. I tend to think that most of us who find the right path are led there by non-humans. But I could be wrong. I do know that if we try to convince our fellow man who aren't vegan to become so, we have to use arguments that give *them* something. They won't do it for the other animals if they're still in the mind set of having to be argued into it. That's just my opinion and I could be wrong about that, too. But what I'm getting at is, the main factors to motivate someone are monetary/vanity/sex because that sadly is what's most important to most of our kind. That being said, the reason I can think of that would motivate at least plenty of women is that:

16. Your skin will look better.

There's others, but I think that one would bring a lot of people around all by itself. And what I wish people would do is just try it. Start off by telling themselves, "ok, I'm not committing to this forever, I'm going to try it for 6 months and if I don't like it I can go back.". Because if people would really try that, I think a huge percentage of them would stick around. If they aren't doing it from personal conviction, they might not remain lifelong vegans, but I think there's a good chance that many would. So I wonder what a good way to motivate people to do it on a trial basis would be.

have gone vegan said in reply to Krissa...

Yeah, I think there has to be an opening of the heart and mind before a person goes vegan. And I too will rattle off the health, environmental and global benefits in addition to the primary goal of eradicating animal use and abuse when talking to folk.

As for a trial basis, I know there are 30-day vegan challenges around, and that's probably a good way for people to get exposed to veganism if they feel they can't make a long-term commitment yet. So maybe we need to promote that avenue more?

veganelder said...

I really like number 4 and number 3 and numbers 1,2,5,6,7,8,9 and 10...the others are sort of side effects of not being a lousy citizen of the community of life. :-)

Great post...you're back in the groove. :-)

have gone vegan said in reply to veganelder...

Back in? You mean I was out? ;)

veganelder said...

Only in terms of frequency, not in terms of excellence. :-)

have gone vegan said in reply to veganelder...

So much for groovin'. Had to fill in (full-time!) for other people at work. Talk about cutting into blogging time, sigh... But thanks Vee. :)

Bea Elliott said...

Number 1 is the best reason of all - Everything else is just a bonus. Thanks for sharing a great thought! ;)

have gone vegan said in reply to Bea Elliott...

I agree about number 1 and the bonuses. Thanks Bea!

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

top ten carnist phrases/excuses that drive me crazy

 Speaking of crazy, is it true that Melanie Joy is now being considered a "new welfarist" by some abolitionists after having written An Introduction to Carnism? I haven't read it myself yet, but that would seem like a stretch. Even if the main focus of animal use in her book is on eating meat, surely it's recognized that while she's dealing with one form of speciesism, she's not denying there are others? Anyway, Top Ten, take it away!

Top Ten Carnist Phrases Or Excuses That Drive Me Crazy:

10. "I respect your personal choice, so you have to respect mine."

 9.  "But what would happen to all the animals otherwise?" 

 8.  "It's not natural because you have to supplement with vitamin B12."

 7.  "The proof is in our teeth."

 6.  "Our brains wouldn't have gotten so big without meat."

 5.  "God said we could."

 4.  "But plants have feelings too!"

 3.  "If lions can kill gazelles..."

 2.  "top of the food chain"

 1.  "circle of life"

Obviously there are more than ten annoying excuses and phrases and no doubt you have your own favourites (let us know in the comments!), but the above ten seem to rankle me the most. Or at least, the quickest. The last two in particular really bother me because they're lazy clichés that folk frequently spew out to justify their habits so that they don't have to spend any real time contemplating why they do what they do.

For a complete dismantling of the above lame phrases and excuses (plus many more) check out Vegan Poet's comprehensive responses to typical comments so that you'll always know how to reply to those still not vegan yet. I'd do it myself, but I'm lazy too. ;)

Comments

Jill said...

Ack. Having trouble leaving a comment for some reason. Trying again...

I've been working on my own Top 10 Objections blog post for a while and am glad to see this one as it includes several that didn't make my list. B-12, Circle of Life, Brains? Uggggh. I've noticed that the ONLY time carnists don't come back at me with an excuse is after they have seen a video like Farm to Fridge, Earthlings or Meet Your Meat. The graphic images seem to bypass the rationalizing portions of their brains and go straight to their hearts. But I suppose once the "shock" wears off and they have a Taco Bell craving, those rationalizations might just bubble back up again. Depressing.
And for the record -- I think Melanie Joy is AMAZING. :-))

have gone vegan said in reply to Jill...

Have you read her Strategic Action for Animals yet? I just got it, and it looks like it'll be very good.

Looking forward to your Top 10 post! Sadly, I bet we could both come up with a top 25 even. Like you said, ugh. Maybe I'll have to put together a Top Ten Reasons to go Vegan list to cheer myself up -- or, since I bet a bunch of them have been done already, compile a list of the best of them! :)

veganelder said...

When I get the plants have feelings doodah I know I'm dealing with someone grasping for straws. :-)

have gone vegan said in reply to veganelder...

Yeah. It may be different if you're vegan already and feel you want to expand your compassion to plants as well, but usually this rationalization is done by non-vegans as an excuse to keep consuming what they do.

Krissa said...

I didn't come up with one to add to the list, but my mom said something once that is as close as we've come to having an argument about it (I've explained why I am the way I am and never really gotten any response). I was going through a pretty rough time and while I know she was trying to think of things to say and maybe steer my mind away from my problems, she raved about some chicken sandwich at some fast food place and said she realized I don't eat meat, "but if you ever have a weak moment".... So I wrote back and gently explained again why I am the way I am and that it truly isn't possible for me to have a weak moment in this particular area. We didn't have an argument about it and that was the end of that, but I was honestly surprised to hear that: "if you have a weak moment". I think a lot of people don't understand us at all. I think they don't realize this is something deep within us. So, this isn't really about an excuse-argument I've been confronted with, but it was surprising and depressing to hear.

have gone vegan said in reply to Krissa...

Weak moment, eh? Seems to me like meat-eaters have a continual series of weak moments, snort. But it sounds like your mom thinks of veganism as a diet, like my own mom does whenever she says, "Can't you have just a little bit?" Sigh.

Rebecca said in reply to Krissa...

Five and a half years as a vegan, and my mom has just recently (I think) given up the notion that I'm on "just another fad diet."

have gone vegan said in reply to Rebecca...

My mom STILL (after 7 years of being vegan) will say something to the effect of, "Maybe it's because of what you eat?" every single time I have any kind of physical ailment. And what kills me is that meat-eaters will almost never get asked this same question even though in their case it's that much more pertinent.

Beaelliott said...

I love these! Mine are all the same - Maybe in a different order.

And like VeganElder mentioned the "screaming carrots" always makes me wonder if I should continue the conversation (with an ignoramus) or... Are the plant-pain issue placed there simply to inflame? Either way - Face palm.

A variation of #9: The animals are already dead (Or) Going to die anyway. (sigh)

But - My favorite to respond to is #7 for a few reasons: I like reminding folks that humans have "cuspids" and nonhumans have canines. I also like to suggest that we try to evolve beyond our dentures. To paraphrase Colleen Patrick-Goudreau: "Do we really want to use the behavior/anatomy of the Neanderthals as the yardstick by which to measure our current moral choices?"

As far as Melanie Joy is concerned - A fantastic mind - And a lovely person! A true advocate I'm proud to have on our side of reason and compassion. A "carnist" mindset is not one that just allows the (single issue) of "food animal" use - But extends to the whole concept of "othering". Her theories are insightful, relevant and thought provoking. I don't agree with anyone who discredits her work. She's a tireless force of good for our side - ;)

have gone vegan said in reply to Beaelliott...

Thanks for your input, Bea -- it's always appreciated! Funny though, but when I came to the last paragraph I thought it could just as easily have read as follows:

As far as Bea Elliot is concerned - A fantastic mind - And a lovely person! A true advocate I'm proud to have on our side of reason and compassion. Her theories are insightful, relevant and thought provoking. I don't agree with anyone who discredits her work. She's a tireless force of good for our side - ;)

Keep on rocking, my friend! :)

ta said...

"But my body needs meat". Or howbout "It tastes too good to give up"

have gone vegan said in reply to ta...

Yep, those are good (and annoying) too. Thanks for contributing. And sorry it's taken me so long to respond. :(

JP said...

I just want to say thank you for this site. It really is good that this site exists. Without it, more people would think buying meat is okay, which would drive the prices up.

Thanks to the vegan movement, the price of delicious bacon is kept down, meaning I can have bacon for breakfast everyday of the week. I want to thank all vegans for keeping the price of meat down. Yes, bacon truly is great and delicious.

Though there is no comparison to veal. I especially enjoy having a pregnant cow give birth directly into my sizzling pan. The taste and texture of veal that has never walked a day in its life is truly amazing. And the placenta makes a good garnish, not to mention all the vitamins it has.

have gone vegan said in reply to JP...

I just want to say thank you for this comment. It really is good that it exists.

Without it, more people would think that animal-chomping folk just aren't aware of the cruelty they're committing.

Thanks to your comment though, it's clear that some carnists are just immature, thoughtless, selfish, heartless (brainless?) and ignorant jerks.

Thanks again.

Carnivore said...

I'll never be a weak minded veggitard. Meat is delicious and nutritious, blood is sweet and the flesh tender. You vegetarians are easily the weaker people if words offend you. So sad you mad but you can't convert me, I once tried a month of no meat and after a week I felt horrible, fatuiged and nausious. Eatting meat isnt a lifestyle or a public statement but essential to life. You call us brainless? I've eaten enough brains to not you're full of bullshit, the exact same bullshit that's in your kale shakes. If I could, I would eat one of every animal on this planet. Oh, and how dose it feel to be on the other side of the conversation with a pretentious fuck. Now that my rant is over I'm going to go and eat a delicious steak (medium rare) just to spite you.

Also plants make air breathable while livestock make methane that pollute it, so it seems that veggitards are the real bad guys. Save a plant eat a cow.

have gone vegan said in reply to Carnivore ...

Thank you for the comment Carnivore.

You're right that plants are healthy for the environment and that livestock is destructive, so wouldn't it make more sense to stop producing all those cows and pigs and chickens? Because as you said, all that methane. So thanks for supporting a vegan stance! :)

Also, if you were feeling fatigued and nauseous after a week, then it sounds like maybe you weren't doing it quite right or getting enough calories. Or perhaps your body was still trying to get rid of noxious toxins? Next time, choose from beans, lentils, peas, nuts, peanut butter, spinach, brown rice, barley, broccoli, quinoa, tofu or soymilk, whole grain bread, pasta, sunflower seeds, avocado, etc., etc., (the list of non-animal protein is practically endless), and you'll do just fine. I mean, if vegan bodybuilders can do it, so can you. Good luck!

Rebecca said in reply to Carnivore ...

Why is it that whenever people rant about how meat makes them smart, they misspell every other word?

David said...

Annoying is that your little bitch ass thinks you're above anybody else for living however the fuck they want. So you're a faggot ass vegan? So the fuck what? Grow up, nobody gives a fuck. What's even more pathetic about your shitty little list is how you're going about attempting to convert people. Mind your own business, dickhead mother fucker.

have gone vegan said in reply to David...

Seriously, David? Okay, you know how to swear, I'll give you that. But please, PLEASE, don't make me think that carnists as a whole are truly stupid on top of everything else, because I'm sure that's not the case. Right?

Krissa said in reply to have gone vegan...

David is clearly a troll. It would be interesting to know how they found this post....trolling maybe?

have gone vegan said in reply to Krissa...

Who knows, eh?

Desertwind said...

In regards to #10:

Yes, that would be called mutual respect. What's so wrong with that? Why does that annoy you?

have gone vegan said in reply to Desertwind...

Hi Desertwind, thank you for asking so that I can clarify.

That particular response is one vegans hear an awful lot, and unfortunately is usually said as a way to shut down a conversation that often hasn't even begun. It's also a way of dismissing concern and responsibility for how we treat other animals.

One of the things most frustrating to many vegans though is that the choice to use or not use animals is presented as if it were a personal choice only, instead of a personal AND political AND cultural choice with dire consequences for the animals involved.

It also tends to be presented as if the two choices are morally equivalent, when in fact one of those choices leads to untold cruelty, misery and death. So you can't really give equal weight to those two choices and say that morally they're of similar value. In other words, I (and most vegans) find it really hard to respect a choice that leads to so much needless violence and death.

Hope that helps. Thanks again for asking.

anynomous said...

Other things that are not really arguments but attempts to dismiss my credibility are: ''You're just brainwashed because you spend too much time on the internet and have too much time on your hands to think about these things'',''veganism is a cult, you're too obsessed'' and the common ''there is other problems to care about like human exploitation, you can't be perfect'' and also ''what about humans''. All from my mother. ugh.

have gone vegan said in reply to anynomous...

Ah yes, the old cult, brainwashing, and 'but what about people?' lines. Sorry you have to deal with that. I wouldn't be surprised if some of my family members actually feel the same way, but they probably know better than to verbalize it out loud, snort.

Thanks for contributing. Appreciate it. :)